| This interview is excerpted from the conversation led by Paula Gordon
            and Bill Russell of The
            Paula Gordon Show: Conversations with
            People at the Leading EdgeSM
 
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 Atlanta / April 2, 2004
 
		Paula Gordon: Greetings,
            all, this is Paula Gordon. Moments are the building
            blocks of time and we're mostly oblivious to them,
            according to Billy Collins. He says it's the task of
            lyrical poetry to bring us back to a sense of the
            momentary. "The poem for me begins in clarity
            and ends in mystery," says Dr. Collins, former
            poet laureate of the United States.  
                Billy Collins: The interesting part of
                writing for me is finding a point in a poem that
                allows me to slip into another dimension.
                Usually, that's moving from a literal plane to a
                completely hypothetical one. It's the
                hypothetical, I think, that makes us human. PG: Dr. Collins
            noticed people saying they were no longer going to
            put off doing things after September 11, 2001. 
                BC: Poetry has been saying that for a
                few thousand years. Seize the day. Do it now. The
                sense behind that imperative is that we don't
                have an unlimited number of days. Television says
                the same thing all the time'Everything's
                going to be OK.' Contemporary novels are saying,
                'Things are not OK.' What poetry is saying is
                'Life is beautiful but you're going to die.' So
                much of poetry asks us to look at life from the
                perspective that death enhances life. PG: Billy Collins
            remembers being slow to find his own
            "voice." 
                BC: I was a little too well behaved in
                my earlier poetry, I was trying to be a 'good
                poet.' I think releasing a kind of juvenile
                delinquent into my poetry was very liberating for
                me. I felt I was free to mess around. The
                speaking voice in these poems is more of a
                character than the autobiographical equivalent of
                me, he's a new and improved version of me. If
                you're a novelist, you have to invent dozens,
                sometimes hundreds of characters. If you're a
                poet, you have to invent just one. PG: Dr. Collins says
            he is always imagining his reader as he writes. 
                BC: These poems are meant to be fairly
                intimate communications between me and one other
                person. I perform half of the exchange and when
                the reader arrives, the exchange is completed. PG: He also thinks
            poetry has a strong vocal appeal. 
                BC: Most of the devices used in
                poetrymeter and rhyme and assonance and the
                other kinds of tropes or effectsare really
                meant to give the ear pleasure in a way that
                prose does not. Poetry also appeals to the ear
                because poetry is an interruption of silence. A
                poem should be preceded by silence and followed
                by silence. A poem for me displaces silence the
                way your body displaces water. PG: He believes that
            poetry provides the highest degree of imaginative
            freedom of any written art. 
                BC: Poets are not restricted as a
                novelist would be in terms of chronology and
                plausibility and inventing characters that then
                you have to deal with. In poetry, there is the
                form and the craft of it but within that, you
                have pretty much carte blanche. For me, the
                imaginative excitement is what attracts me to
                poetry. � 1997-2005 The Paula Gordon Show 
		
  Billy Collins' 
		first online publication
            appears in TCR's 
		Issue 7. More Billy Collins at TCR:
 -Grace
            Cavalieri interviews Billy Collins
 -Billy Collins reads
            "The Yellow Wagtail's Nest" by John Clare
   
 
			 Paula Gordon's days as a
            television host culminated with an Emmy nomination in
            1977 for "Small World," a weekly half-hour
            show on Chicagos WMAQTV, NBCs owned and
            operated station, where she was also a station
            announcer.  She then spent almost two decades in
            the business world as she and husband Bill Russell
            created, built, then sold one of the Southeasts
            premier film and video companies.  Producer and
            host of The Paula Gordon Show, Paula also
            leads The Clarion Group, a business consultancy. A
            Midwesterner, she lives with her husband live in
            Atlanta.  She is the host of Musical Wonders
            from the Oberlin Conservatory of Music. 
			 In addition to being co-host of The
            Paula Gordon Show, Bill Russell serves
            as the research vice president of Clarion Group with
            particular expertise in information systems and
            infrastructure support. Bill's degree in systems
            engineering from Stanford University ('68) was a
            springboard for a lifetime supporting the knowledge
            and communications needs of corporations, from
            designing systems solutions for Levi Strauss, to
            start-up companies and state-wide broadcast
            television programming. A world traveler, Bill serves
            as President of Public Intelligence, Inc. and of
            Investigations Group, Inc.  He was born and
            raised in Alabama.   |